Showing posts with label Rolling Stock Strategy. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Rolling Stock Strategy. Show all posts

Saturday, 11 June 2011

New Trains - 800 days of talk and no trousers!

This from Captain Deltic...

Today, 11 June, is the 800th day since the last rolling stock order was placed.

Note, placed, not preferred bidder selected.

Altogether now, and perhaps ATOC, Network Rail, Passenger Focus, RIA and Sir Roy McNulty might care to join in...

Why are we waiting, why are we waiting...?

Wednesday, 1 June 2011

NR produces Rolling Stock RUS

This from GJ Churchward...

So Network Rail has published a Rolling Stock RUS!


Eye readers can discover the salient points here:

We have published the draft for consultation of the Network Route Utilisation Strategy: Passenger Rolling Stock.

The Network RUS: Passenger Rolling Stock focuses on the opportunities and efficiencies which arise when purchasing new rolling stock. It considers the requirements of passengers in each market sector. It then demonstrates how planning the rolling stock and infrastructure together can enable the network to become more inter-operable to enable rolling stock to go anywhere it is needed to serve its nominated market sector.

Given the cost of purchasing new rolling stock, opportunities, to exploit economies of scale which could be achieved from simplifying the types of vehicles available and smoothing the profile of procurement are particularly important.

The emerging strategy of the RUS draft for consultation recommends:

  • The procurement of new rolling stock should consider the requirements of passengers in the market sector it is required to serve as well as the network infrastructure it will run over
  • Rolling stock procurement decisions should seek to take advantage of economies of scale and continuity of production
  • The infrastructure should be planned to enable rolling stock to be more interoperable (within the market sector it serves)
Stangely no mention of the advisability of the wheels being round though.

UPDATE: This from Steve Strong...


According to NR the RS-RUS also finds that:

  • Owing to the plethora of different vehicle designs 8% (£75m) of average procurement costs is on non-recurring costs associated with the development of bespoke rolling stock
Does this £75m include the £27m sunk to date into the bespoke Incredibly Expensive Procurement (without a single new vehicle to show for it)?

UPDATE: This from Ithuriel...

According to the Executive summary of Network Rail's Rolling Stock RUS:

Information provided by a number of train manufacturers through RIA, suggests that there are considerable economies of scale to be had from reducing the variety of different rolling stock designs. Based on this information, it is estimated that in the region of £75 million or eight per cent of the average procurement cost is spent on non-recurring costs including research and development of bespoke rolling stock

Hang on a moment!

If £75 million represents 8% of the average procurement cost, then the average rolling stock contract must be £837 million - say 500-600 vehicles

But when was the last time a brand new fleet of that size was ordered in the UK?

And isn't the reallity that the piddling little orders that have been placed have been repeats for more 'Desistars'?

What's going on?

UPDATE: This from Captain Deltic...

I quote:

The analysis in the RUS suggests that a 23 metre vehicle could be deployed across a Considerable amount of the network with relatively low costs for infrastructure interventions.

Look out of the window, Chaps.

It's called a Mk3 coach and it's been doing just that for 35 years.

The Fact Compiler offers the following Old Railway Wisdom - If 'three across and one on top' can get there, anything will get there!

Thursday, 25 November 2010

602 days without a new train order

For the avoidance of doubt...

Despite all today's fine words and column inches it remains 602 days since the last order for new trains was placed.

And tomorrow it will be 603 days, and on Saturday 604 days, and on Sunday 605 days, and on Monday 606 days, etc...

So Secretary of State, when will the first of the 2,100 new vehicles that you have promised actually be ordered?

Wednesday, 24 November 2010

601 days since the last new train order

This from Captain Deltic...

So busy proof reading Rail Business Intelligence that I overlooked that yesterday was the 600th day without a new train order. (Eye doesn't normally allow such blatant plugs, but just this once. Ed)

But luckily I remembered just now as I was assembling the trophies for this Friday's Golden Spanner Awa... (Oi! I've warned you Deltic, you're barred! Ed)

UPDATE: This from Ithuriel...

Is it not odd that those local representatives pressing for more capacity haven't latched onto the good Captain's latest ticking time bomb and used it to their own ends?

UPDATE: This from Steve Strong...

Perhaps tomorrow's announcement by the Secretary of State will address this problem?

Oh no, now I remember.

Mr Hammond is due to announce the wrong train that nobody actually wants.


Apart that is from Mr Kipling, obviously.

UPDATE: This from Captain Deltic...

But any order won't count until the contract has been signed, not to mention the protests from other manufacturers being heard in court.

So, no change tomorrow, I suspect.

Friday, 1 October 2010

Look across the Channel and weep

Compare and contrast:

This from the FT:

The French authorities have been accused of trying to block the first-ever order by an affiliate of SNCF, France’s national train operator, for non-French high-speed trains, after Eurostar named Germany’s Siemens preferred bidder for a new train fleet.

With this from Rail Business Intelligence...

Bombardier insiders continue to express their frustration at the lack of progress in developing a bi-mode version of the Class 22X DEMU... According to Bombardier, the company has held numerous meetings over the past three years with DfT...

So in France you can have whatever you want, as long as it is built by Alstom. Whilst in the UK you just can't.

Tuesday, 27 July 2010

New rolling stock strategy explained



UPDATE: This from Bill Hoole...

Why do drivers need a large plaque in the cab telling them the sort of train they are driving?

So long as you can find the Regulator and the brake when you get in the cab, that's all you need to know.

UPDATE: This from Sir Humphrey Beeching...

As some of my departmental colleagues might quip - it's the regulator that's the problem.

If Pollyanna would only get out of the cab the railway would run so much better...

Wednesday, 24 March 2010

UK remains poor man of Europe

This from our man at 222 Marylebone Road
Compare and contrast, as they say.

Northern and EMT get 16 vintage DMU vehicles between them and the Government pulls out the PR stops boosting this £17.8 million deal.

Potty old Passenger Focus hails 'new trains'.

Now consider this routine statement from Bombardier.

BERLIN, GERMANY--(Marketwire - March 24, 2010) - Bombardier Transportation received an order for 49 additional Regio2N regional double-deck trains, as an option from the "Regio2N" contract signed with SNCF on behalf of the French Regions, on 24 February 2010. This additional order for 49 trains, which will be financed by the Regions, amounts to approximately 350 million euros ($ 474 million US).

And while so called experts say that the French Regions have been starved to pay for TGV, these really are very nice trains.

And it's going to get worse...

Tuesday, 2 March 2010

Rolling stock news - DafT shuffles the deckchairs

Eye hears that there are to be quite a few HLOS rolling stock deals to be signed over the next 10 days.

First Great Western, as speculated in Modern Railways, is to get 30 class 150 vehicles from LooRoll and London Midland in late summer 2010

Northern loses the 180s to East Coast but gain seven 142 sets from First Great Western and quite a significant number of Class 150s (sources suggest up to 20)

EMT gets four more 156 units from Northern so that all Nottingham - Liverpool services become four car throughout the day.

So a great victory for Manchester, Liverpool, and Leeds (prop Gordon Brown) but not so good for the Tory Shires.

Could there be an election in the offing?

Quite possibly - but even Labour's strategists can't speed up Bombardier's production lines.

Testing of the first of eight two Car 172s for LooRoll has only just begun.

These units are followed by four for the Chiltern Gau of the Reichsbahn.

Which could push the LM deliveries into next year!

Wasn't there supposed to have been a Rolling Stock Plan published last autumn?

UPDATE: This from Ithuriel...

Doesn't 'shuffling the deckchairs' give a misleading impression of purposeful activity?

Isn't it more the case that DfT is trying to find enough beach towels so that those in the unshuffled deckchairs can share two between three?


The Fact Compiler wonders if there is a measure for Deckchairs in Excess of Capacity?

UPDATE: This from Leo Pink...


That would be DIXC as in 'Whistling Dixie'.

Which is all that passengers on capacity starved TOCs can do...



Tuesday, 15 December 2009

Adonis comes clean on 'Autumn' Rolling Stock Plan

This from Lord Adonis yesterday...

In July I undertook to review the Department’s rolling stock plan in the light of the electrification announcements and other developments. The Government remains committed to providing an additional 1300 carriages by mid-2014.

Until commercial negotiations on the Thameslink programme are completed, I am not in a position to update the rolling stock plan, which is critically dependent on the determination of the Thameslink rolling stock contract.


No shit Sherlock (see Eye passim)

UPDATE: This from a Mr Chips with Everything...

The ex Thameslink Class 319 units appear to be the answer to all Lord Adonis’ prayers.

According to various sources, following:

  • “thorough refurbishment, including the installation of air conditioning”;
  • electrification of various lines; and
  • completion of the new Thameslink fleet,
they will be used: -
  • to operate all suburban services between Oxford, Newbury, Reading and London;
  • to replace Class 323 EMUs, which would be transferred to the West Midlands;
  • to operate regional services on the Liverpool & Manchester (Chat Moss, Bolton and Wigan); and
  • to enable sufficient cascades from above, to bring about the replacement of all the Pacers.
Given that there are only 86 x 4-car Class 319 units in total, and that seventeen 323s will apparently move south (so a net of 69 units), that leaves only the “soixante-neuf” to replace all 102 x Class 142 and Class 144 units on Northern.

And that's before you’ve even touched the other 38 Class 142 and Class 143 units on ATW and FGW.

No way Jose!

And if they're so good why not leave them on Thameslink?

Is this another case of favouring the South East with new rolling stock whilst the rest of the country has to put up with cast offs?

Thursday, 3 December 2009

Will DafT's updated Rolling Stock Plan ever appear

This written answer given on the 2nd December by Moley...

David Ruffley (- Shadow Minister, Home Affairs; Bury St Edmunds, Conservative)

To ask the Minister of State, Department for Transport what the average age of rolling stock used on the Norwich to London railway line was during (a) 2007, (b) 2008 and (c) to date in 2009.

Chris Mole (Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for Transport; Ipswich, Labour)

The Department for Transport does not hold the information requested in relation to the average age of rolling stock used on the Norwich to London railway line.

The Eye is still struggling to understand how the Department can produce a meaningful Rolling Stock Plan if they don't have access to such basic data.

As regular Eye readers will be aware Ministers have been assuring Parliament that such a thing will be published in the "Autumn".

As it is now winter perhaps Marsham Street has finally admitted it's just not up to the task?

UPDATE:
This just in from Captain Deltic...

Just thought I'd pause from welding up a Pacer underframe to point out the DfT Rail doesn't need to know the age of rolling stock because it is assumed that all ex-BR stock will run forever.

UPDATE: This from J Alfred Prufrock...

The Autumn ends with the winter Equinox, which falls on 21 December.

Mr Mole has also said that the Plan is proving to be a major challenge and he hopes to get it out by Christmas, which this year falls on 25th December...

But note that he did not say Autumn of which year.

UPDATE: This from Trailer Second...

Captain Deltic welding a Pacer underframe?

Their underframes will outlast us all.


In fact the MOD want them for the next version of the AFV, expected to be built by a "British led Consortium" of Krupp, Mitsubishi and Fiat.
..

UPDATE: This via North Pole depot...

Every year my delivery Plan is a challenge, but I usually manage to achieve it on the night.

However this year I have had to find a new piece of "sliding stock" myself.

Despite promises of a re-worked underframe from a "surplus" Oldham Loop unit (thanks for trying Captain D!), I have had to resort to a short term lease arrangement on a flatrol from a Heritage Line in return for some guest appearances before the big night itself... as if I didn't have enough to do.


So tell DafT they'll be very lucky to get any Plan in their stockings from me!

Père Noel
Gare du Pôle Nord

Wednesday, 4 November 2009

Rolling stock strategy is heading for a fall

It's late.

The Department for Transport originally promised it in Autumn.

It now admits it will be published at the 'end of the year'.

Shadow Transport Minister Stephen Hammond is unconvinced.

At a conference in Manchester today he said he expected it to emerge in March next year!


Hammond is clearly realistic about his future Department's ability to deliver.

Thursday, 15 October 2009

Seasonal conundrum

When does winter start?

The Fact Compiler likes the old ways and thus marks the start of Autumn from Lammas Day (1st August).

Which means that there are just over two weeks till the start of Winter.

Eye wonders if Moley knew this when he provided the following written answer in Parliament yesterday:

On 23 July, the Government announced a major new electrification programme which radically affects the requirements for train rolling stock over the next decade. In particular, there will be far less need for diesel trains and a greater requirement for electric trains. The Department will publish a new rolling stock plan in the autumn, setting out a revised strategy.

The clock's ticking.

Thursday, 23 July 2009

Electrification - where the trains are going

This just in from a Mr Saltaire...

I wondered if Eye readers might appreciate a quick and dirty breakdown of what today's announcement means in rolling stock terms?

This taken from the Departments 'The Case for Electrification' published today:

  • 319s cascaded from Thameslink to GW Thames Valley in December 2016
  • 165s cascaded from GW Thames Valley to GW Bristol area (probably Cardiff – Portsmouth) in December 2016;
  • DMUs from Bristol area that are freed up when 165s are parachuted in, to be cascaded to Northern to boost capacity in December 2016;
  • New four car EMUs to be procured to operate Manchester – Scotland TransPennine Express services, delivery 2013;
  • Class 185 DMUs freed up when new EMUs enter service to be used to strengthen existing 185 operated TPE services in 2013
  • 319s cascaded from Thameslink to Northern electrified routes in 2013 (or earlier);
  • Super-duper express replacing HSTs across all the GW from December 2016
  • HSTs freed up for the Voyager replacement project (tee hee);
  • Pacer replacement project, starting with Northern at franchise renewal in 2013 and continuing with ATW in 2018.
By that time, we should be into long (15 year) franchises, allowing the TOCs to commit to new trains with some forward thinking.

Unless of course the Tories turn the juice off...

UPDATE: This from Muttley...

A few things I've noticed about the electric news ....
  • The Electrification document states in para 57 that the Super Express Programme was started in 2005. Was it? Wasn't that the Intercity Express Programme? or HST2? Note the document makes no mention of IEP, political spin to distance the DfT from the millions already wasted? Modern Railways consultancy feature reckons over £15m so far. Maybe 3rd time lucky for the Class 666's, the Super Express Programme Train is Coming!
  • Para 18 contains a good line: "Experience around the world shows that a well designed, constructed and maintained electric railway will be more reliable than a diesel railway." Ouch! No examples within the UK exist? Is that a future warning to NR?
Ceefax this morning had another solution to the question of what to do with the Severn Tunnel and a few others:


I look forward to travelling though Box Cutting!

Extraordinary - The Fact Compiler didn't realise such old technology still existed. Does Ceefax host blogs?

UPDATE: This from Dreadnought...

I have heard that rather than procure new stock for the TPE Manchester-Scotland service the intent is to use Class 350s from the existing fleet.

One option is that these would be found by using an Outer Suburban version of the Hitachi Sooper-Dooper Express on some of the fast Northamptons.

Could just be a load of 'Cobblers' though!


Wednesday, 4 February 2009

New trains shocker!

This just in from yesterday's Anglo-sino trade bilateral.

UK Government signals unconditional acceptance of terms for Chinese trains.

Thursday, 4 September 2008

Shanghied

Rumours of further changes to HSBC's rail division.

Having shot both the MD and Head of Customer Services the banking group is apparently looking to dispense with the Rosco's 'New Business Team'.

This is the team which only this July won £180m worth of business financing the new Siemens trains for Scotrail.

Looks like HSBC is supremely confident about DafT's promise of 1,300 new vehicles.

Tuesday, 22 July 2008

Peter - we need you!

The Fact Compiler has an apology to make. He has in the past accused DafT of being clueless. He accepts that this is not true.

They are in fact completely clueless.

Railway Eye readers may recollect an amusing Parliamentary exchange on the 19th June when Tom Harris 'fessed-up that his civil servants have no idea how much rolling stock there is on the network and are reliant upon a Roger Ford crib.


Now of course this could not possibly be true because in January of this year DafT published a Rolling Stock Plan which said where new trains should go. So they must know where the existing trains are.

To help clear the matter up Shadow Transport Minister Stephen Hammond MP tabled a further question along the same lines asking the Secretary of State "on what date her Department ceased to hold and collate this information?"

Yesterday Tom Harris gave the written answer: "I refer the hon. Member to my answer of 19 June. This information has never been routinely collected in the Department."


The Fact Compiler hopes that the MoD doesn't allocate new rifles on the same basis that DafT allocates new trains.

Meanwhile an urgent message to Peter Fox: A case of your finest "Platform 5 Combi" spotter books to Marsham Street please!


Monday, 23 June 2008

Clueless!

Rail Minister Tom Harris had a difficult end to his week on Friday when there was quite a media brouhaha over his blog question demanding why Britons are "so bloody miserable".

The Fact Compiler fears that he must add to his woes by drawing attention to an extraordinary written reply he gave last Thursday to a Parliamentary question on rolling stock.

Railway Eye readers will recollect the hoots of derision that greeted DafT's Rolling Stock Plan (RSP), published on the 30th January this year.

In this fantabulous document DafT identified the need for an additional 1,300 vehicles for the network and even presumed to guess where these should be allocated (the three vehicles the RSP assigned to East Midlands Trains prompted a senior executive's exasperated response that he hoped they wouldn't all arrive at once!).

Despite considerable concerns within the industry about the paucity of the RSP there was at least a belief that the decisions it contained were based on a degree of knowledge about current rolling stock allocation.

Alas - this is not the case!

Last Thursday DafT released an answer from Tom Harris to the following question from his Tory Shadow:

Stephen Hammond (Shadow Minister, Transport; Wimbledon, Conservative): To ask the Secretary of State for Transport how many (a) locomotives, (b) multiple units, (c) freight wagons and (d)carriages were in use on the rail network in the most recent period for which figures are available, broken down by (i) train operating company and (ii) class.

Tom Harris (Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for Transport; Glasgow South, Labour): This information is not held by the Department for Transport, but is widely available in the specialist press.

Frankly this is an extraordinary admission and must call into question the whole basis upon which the Department for Transport has drawn up its Rolling Stock Plan.

The Fact Compiler was so shocked by this admission that he sought clarification from wiser heads,

It emerges that at a media briefing with Tom Harris in May the Minister was
told that his Department officials were reliant on an Informed Sources table from Modern Railways as their rolling stock crib!

"Is this true?" demanded the Minister. "Yes Minister" replied the Minister's minder.

So at least it is now official - the Department for Transport really hasn't got a clue what is going on.