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Thursday, 7 June 2012

War crime on the East Lancs? A Rabbi writes.

Eye has expressed concern in the past about the activities of so called Second World War re-enactors on Heritage Railways.

Although nothing prepared your editor for the story in today's Daily Telegraph which alleged that the following took place on the East Lancashire Railway this weekend:
  • One man attending the event in Ramsbottom and Bury, Greater Manchester, was spotted impersonating Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany. 
  • Others in the 10,000-strong crowd wore some of the insignia of Hitler’s most ruthless SS troops, the Schutzstaffel, Allgemeine SS and SS-Totenkopfverbände – the last of these responsible for Germany’s major concentration camps. 
  • A Jewish couple who turned up expecting to enjoy afternoon English tea dances and a fly-past by a Second World War Spitfire claim they were asked to consider dressing up as Holocaust victims.
Clearly whatever 'good-will' the East Lancs had hoped to gain from the event is close to having drained away.

Meanwhile the waves caused by the story contained in the Telegraph have already rippled out as far as the Jewish community in Berlin.

Rabbi Dr Walter Rothschild has written the following open letter to UK media:

7th. June 2012.

Dear Sir,

As a railway enthusiast, an (amateur) railway historian and a member of the World War 2 Railway Study Group, as well as a rabbi serving congregations in Germany and Austria, I have a fairly wide perspective on the issues that are always raised by 'Nostalgic Wartime Events'. There are several problems; one is Ignorance, one is Thick-Headedness, and one is perhaps real Evil.

Ignorance of the realities of the Second World War is widespread - and yet there is little excuse for this, for it took place in a time of film and photography and there are even now a few veterans left to tell their tales. For many English people the first thought will perhaps be of 'Dad's Army' (and maybe 'Allo Allo') - and while others may be able to think of terms like Dunkirk, Battle of Britain, Blitz, D-Day and so forth, the fact remains that Britain was on the side that won the war (just - it was a much closer result than many people realise) and so one can look back with nostalgia on having won, on having been on 'the good side'. This enables the RAF's 'Battle of Britain Flight' to display national pride, old soldiers to march to the Cenotaph, old men to wear their medals with pride, and so forth - and rightly so.

From the German perspective things are more complicated. No-one really wants to see commemorative flights of Focke-Wulfs and Dorniers and Heinkels - (though a Ju 52 flies regularly over Berlin for tourists); The Reichsbahn of the period was used to transport not just munitions and troops but many millions of Forced Labourers, Deportees, Prisoners of War - and later on fleeing civilians and hundreds of thousands of wounded, and later starving civilians hunting for food, and repatriated concentration camp survivors - this was by no means only an issue of Jews, or of Sinti and Roma, though of course several million were also transported by rail to the places where they were to be starved, shot or gassed. Men, women and children.

So whilst many Class 52 'Kriegsloks' have survived (many of them actually in the rebuilt version of the DDR Reichsbahn) and some still run, there is no desire to create an 'authentic train' of goods vans and cram them with starving, scared passengers with no toilet facilities. When a 'nostalgic' train runs to allow modern passengers to 'travel like in Grandad's time' (as the flyers and posters advertise) this normally means four-wheel 'Thunderbox' coaches or bogie 'Eilzugwagen'.

The Swastika symbol is officially banned here; Exceptions are made for certain cultural matters (such as old films) and museums - so in the transport museums in Berlin and Nürnberg E19 electric locos of the period are portrayed in their original liveries - complete with symbols.

Thick-Headedness exists when people say "I know all this, but still I think it would be fun to walk up and down the platform dressed as though the Wehrmacht really had invaded Britain in 1940'. (Think of the novel 'The Eagle has Landed.') Since this is historically incorrect - thank goodness - there can be no thought of 'authenticity' here. An 8F or a Black 5 hauling LMS coaches or Mark 1's filled with SS troops is something that thankfully never happened. So to insist on dressing up like this is just stupid. But not necessarily evil.

Then there are the Evil ones; those who wish it had been true, those who wear these uniforms and symbols because, for whatever reason (don't they have girl friends?) they think the Nazi ideology was correct for its time and would be appropriate for modern times too. Such people are unfortunately gaining political power in several European countries at the moment and they scare the hell out of anyone with enough sense and enough historical knowledge to know what this kind of racist, nationalistic, extremist ideology can lead to - and did lead to. For such people one can have nothing but contempt.

The East Lancs Railway - one can see from the efforts put into controlling uniforms - was aware of these dangers and did attempt to put measures in place to cope with the Evil and maybe the Thick-Headed - but unfortunately the Great British Public is famous for its Ignorance. My own proposal for any future events - if they are to be held, and this period is after all NOT a taboo for us - would be to concentrate much more in advance on preparing a few typical and authentic British cameos - for example, a 'Children's Evacuation Train' with kids wearing labels round their necks being waved off; or a Troop Train, (maybe also one with American or Canadian 'troop's?); or a train of military vehicles with an escort coach; or even an Ambulance Train with stretcher cases being loaded. In all cases there should be an accompanying educational effort - leaflets or flyers or brochures which explain perhaps a few historical facts (How many troop trains ran after Dunkirk and where to? Where were chidren evacuated to? Where did the ambulance trains run? How many bomb attacks took place on British stations? How many railwaymen were killed while on duty?) - in other words, make it not a 'Fun' event but an Educational one.

It will still be a matter of taste whether one should dwell on this period at all, but I personally see no reason why not - so long as it is done for these motives, and not just to allow some people who, for reasons known only to themselves and their mothers, have full SS uniforms and regalia hanging in their bedroom wardrobes, a chance to wear them in public.

Yours Sincerely,
Shalom,

Rabbi Dr. Walter Rothschild. 
Perhaps time for all heritage railways to undertake some serious reflection on the structure of any future Second World War based events?

Thursday, 18 March 2010

SWT now employs Thought Police - Official

This just in from Barry Spotter...

Nice to see that South West Trains are taking the security of their passengers seriously.

Not only are cameras on the "verboten" list but so apparently is writing things down!

This from The News:

Musician Tom Shaw was stunned when he was kicked off a train - for writing a list of songs.

I suppose the gentleman in question must be thanking his stars that his musical taste is middle of the road.

Megadeath's "Symphony of Destruction" would probably have involved imprisonment...

Get a grip Souter!

Sunday, 24 May 2009

War crime at the Bluebell

What is it with heritage railways and the Second World War?

A number of years ago Peak Rail managed to offend nearly everybody by running a picture of an SS 're-enactor' on their magazine's front cover.


Now the Bluebell has gone one better.


Pictured on this website are supposed British soldiers 're-enacting' the summary execution of a German spy at Horsted Keynes station!


And it would appear for nothing more treasonable than carrying a bottle of beer.

Granted it may be lager but the death sentence for a lapse in taste?


Note in particular the British Military Police corporal administering a shot to the back of the head in the style of the
Einsatzgruppen Kommando.

Presumably a War Crimes Tribunal was also 're-enacted' immediately after this tasteful tableaux concluded?


Perhaps Boris and TfL should recruit this over-zealous lot to police the alcohol free Underground.


UPDATE: This from 'Top Link man' over at another heritage railway...

We were appalled at the mock execution.

We do also run a war weekend, but the emphasis is on the home front, long distance nostalgia for egg powder, a degree of fun dressing up in 1940s fashions, a collection of suitable vehicles and of course the Spifire flypast.

Yes, there are soldiers in uniform and yes, some German ones at that - but nothing like this.

The mock execution was a ghastly error of judgement by someone - but please don't damn the heritage movement as a whole with this particular brush.

UPDATE: This from Korschtal...

I see the point, but if we only remember the nostalgic things, and not the darker side, I think we run a greater risk of forgetting what a terrible thing war is, and what it does to people - this sort of thing did happen and often to people who were innocent.

I think it depends how it is done - and I can't comment on that as I wasn't there - but I don't think reenacting this sort of thing is automatically wrong.

It may also serve as a reminder of what a police state looks like and make people think carefully about whom and what they vote for.

UPDATE: This just from Our man in the four foot...

I’m sorry?

Was that re-enacting?

As a definition:
‘Historical re-enactment is a type of role-play in which participants attempt to recreate some aspects of a historical event or period’.

As I very much doubt that any such summary execution took place on the British mainland – where is the re-enactment aspect?

Once again
this is simply a bunch of little boys in uniforms playing soldiers.

I would have expected better from the Bluebell but it appears they have also sunk into the mire of piss-poor heritage events.


Nostalgia is fine but this stuff is effectively ‘tabloid’ history and demeans those who fought for our freedom 70 years ago.

So do us a favour guys…..grow up!

UPDATE: This view from 'PD'...

As one of the "Little Boys who need to grow up".

May I first of all say I have been involved in assisting "Heritage Railways" to put on 1940s vents for over 15 years. In that time, I, and many of my friends and associates have directly contributed to bringing in tens of thousands of pounds, if not hundreds of thousands, to keep Steam Railways going.


Volunteers and willing helpers, not lofty elitists keep these things running.

And the so called "SS Soldier" on the cover of the Peak Rail journal is dressed in Army camouflage and representing an ordinary German Army Grenadier
...



...just as I would not know a 2-4-4 Saddle tank from a 4-6-4 Deltic - please don't simply parrot another hack's scrawlings.


This is a big wide world and there is room for everyone except the intolerant!

Oh - and to address the point of the execution - Abhorrent - repulsive and out of place -
No responsible group allied or otherwise would contemplate such a vile pantomime.


This is obviously the actions of two aged duffers out to shock or show off. It has no place or value in current Living History or Re-enactment.

UPDATE: This from The Master...

What's the preservation movement come to?

Summary executions as a form of family entertainment?


Thank heaven no railway has a rake of cattle trucks otherwise we might see a 'tasteful' re-enactment of trains to... (deleted for reasons of taste).

UPDATE: The Sun has picked up the story.

UPDATE: This just in from our Independent Expert...

The worst aspect of this debacle is that it feeds the view of most Fleet Street journos that railway enthusiasts are either saddos or weirdos!

UPDATE 13:00 Monday 26th May: Incredibly the offending page is still up...

UPDATE: This from Leo Pink...

My local Lidl doesn't seem to stock the lager shown but the label is not entirely clear.

Can someone advise on the correct brand name?


Saturday, 27 September 2008

Razor blades

Telegrammed by Eboracum (50A)
Time is running out for ex Porterbrook flagship locomotive 55016 Gordon Highlander.

A group of Deltic cranks are busy saving up their used stamps, tinfoil and milk bottle tops in a desperate last ditch attempt to save the loco but despite this there seems to be no agreement in place on how this might be done.

With scrap prices remaining firm current owner Harry Needle Railroad Company is known to be comfortable wielding the gas-axe to convert D9016 into razor blades.

Curiously HNRC's near neighbours at Barrow Hill; The Deltic Preservation Society and the Napier Power Heritage Trust have remained silent about the whole affair and are probably saving their pennies for the expected spares windfall.

These parts are well needed bearing in mind DPS reliability problems over the last two years.

With the loco's last official outing at Peak Rail this weekend at least one crank website is trying to organise a 'protest' over the threatened scrapping.

Perhaps Peak Rail need to draft in their uniformed Nazi battle re-enactors to quell any potential civil unrest?